Jobcast # 112: The Immeasurable & the Unfathomable (Christ without Christianity # 11)
Almost 3-hr conversation with Cedomir on Jesus,hell, & NPCs.
The email from Cedomir that was the launch-point:
If God is all/only good/can not lie, then that which isn't good/lies can’t be a part of Him (at least not entirely). The fallen angels would have been cast out/from the omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient Order. In a sense, a line was drawn. Can they/anything exist outside of the Creation? Either/or not withstanding, the fallen angels are using humanity and our realm/souls/world to bolster, prop up, broaden their “creation.” Populate and energize it, if you will. If our souls go to where they deserve after physical death, then if they don't choose God, they necessarily fill the “netherworld.” Which brings me to a specific (Steiner-ian) point. The evolution of theological perspectives in the historical sense might be a reflection of the parallel spiritual evolution. So, when the hunter-gatherers believed the afterlife was just like their reality but without disease and death, perhaps it was. By the time of urban hierarchies, the afterlife reflected the social order, judgement/judges. Jews and Greeks had Sheol/Hades, perhaps because punishment was reserved for titans, etc, not humans (kind of a waiting room). Since Christ our Savior, we now have Heaven and Hell, because the actual options are available in the world as it is now. As if the aforementioned line drawn is becoming more exclusive. Which brings us to the Book of Revelations, representing the second death, a final, eternal judgment of ***separation*** from God for the devil, demons, and the unrighteous (to exist but not with God?).
Some, but def. not all, of this is covered in our talk.
Songs: “Keep on Rolling” & “Top of the World” by Jumberingas; “Good Friend of Mine” by Bones of J.R Jones; “Changes,” by Short Hand.